@Atlantis: Good job all this time, on one hand, I'm sad the fun is over, on the other hand, I'm glad there are fewer and fewer elders around. Having elders DF'ed, DA'ed or walking away is a GOOD thing in the end.
Anony Mous
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BOE Update! (as of 2020-07-31)
by Atlantis inbody of elder letters, announcements, and so forth will be next to "none" unless more elders decide to contact us and help out.. atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years.
two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.. when this happens receiving confidential documents is severed.
the last announcement we received was 2020-07-23. i was not about to send out a childish letter on "mold" in the kingdom halls.. there are people out there out of work and concerned about what they will eat tomorrow, and the watchtower is concerned with mold!.
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I was wondering how this would play out in JW land.
by wolverines ini have a niece who is trying to get pregnant.
she was telling me her husband had to go to a room with porn in it and masturbate into a cup to get tested.
i never thought of this before but but how would a jw handle this.
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IVF in general is looked poorly upon, because it involves basically aborting multiple (typically around 5-12) viable sometimes fertilized eggs.
According to JW life begins at "conception, when the ovum, or egg cell, of the woman is fertilized by a sperm cell of the man" (G 7/2009)".
Although they leave it up to the conscience what to do with fertilized eggs: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20121215/view-of-in-vitro-fertilization/ which is (as usual) wholly inconsistent with their stance on abortion.
As far as the masturbation, if you masturbate, you become gay (Watchtower May 15 1970 p. 315; Watchtower 1976 Feb 15 pp. 122–123) which then would obviate the need for children.
As far as the issue in regards masturbation and other real problems in the real world which is quite an interesting read: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49755809_Issues_arising_during_the_treatment_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses_by_in_vitro_fertilisation
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Guns...Are You For or Against Legally Owning Them?
by minimus inthere is a surge going on of people buying guns, especially first time buyers.
with talk of police defunding and rioting in the neighborhoods, some people want to protect themselves.. do you support owning and using a gun if needed?.
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When people compare the UK to the US with absolute numbers, they forget that the UK is just one state (although soon to be liberated) in the EU.
So you really have to compare something equally sized and populated such as Minnesota (D) or Utah (R) or London to Chicago or LA, not NYC or compare the entire EU to the US.
Same goes with COVID and other comparisons. Then there's also the classification problems, the US still counts suicide as murder and suicide is included in gun deaths, in Europe suicide and consensual murder is largely legal and not counted. Hell, both the Netherlands and the UK won't count a murder if there is no-one reporting the murder to the police, they'll pick up the body and wait to count until there is someone willing to stake a legal claim.
When looking at true comparisons, Europe is about as safe as Detroit when it comes to violent crime, and no sane American wants to live in Detroit.
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Just wanting confirmation on an unofficial JW experience
by joe134cd injust wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this unofficial jw experience that my father received by email.
i’ve told him that it against wt rules to forward unofficial accounts.
but of course he just puts that down to apostate driven lies.
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Anony Mous
Zoom has more than 12M paying customers and 300M free subscribers. A few thousand JW’s logging onto their free version once a week does not even tick on their radar, especially since they have emphatically stated they don’t want the congregations to pay for these services. -
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Black people attacking whites in the US
by JoenB75 ini see a lot of shocking videos on social media about gangs of blacks attacking white people.
how big is the problem really and what is done about it?.
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The question was: black people attacking whites is on the rise
there are 3 explanations:
- more black people robbing whites which would imply the reduced enforcement (because BLM protests) is increasing crime - but criminals don’t racially profile nor are the attacks about robbing people
- black people are increasingly racist (which is directly in line with BLM ideology)
- political groups are directly attacking those that do not agree with them (again, BLM is the only ideology that does encourage this)
Your statement that BLM is just white people is false, select protestor pictures are indeed mixed groups, the videos and pictures of the protests devolving into looting show large groups of black people doing the looting with few white snowflakes mixed in.
I agree with you that the majority of black people do NOT agree with BLM and it is sponsored by ActBlue and other Democrat groups with ties to Soros, but I did not tie ALL black people to BLM, the subgroups doing the increased attacks are sponsored and instigated by BLM, simplified BLM members are the ones doing the attacking, my contention is that black people are being used by BLM to do these acts of violence. There are also examples of white membered BLM groups attacking but that is less of an occurrence.
As to your other point, I agree, BLM does not just consist out of black people, AOC and Julian Castro are members too, you just tied solely black people to BLM by saying they are Hispanic thus cannot be part of BLM. BLM is a movement, it is consisting of the extreme-left wing of the Democratic Party (Biden, AOC, Castro, ...) promoting a specific left-wing ideology through violence.
It’s basically a parallel to the Hitlerjugend of the Nazi party, they were likewise not solely white Germans, they were likewise promoting an ideology and they were likewise not representative of ALL white Germans. However, we do still condemn ANY German, including Jews that went along with the ideology of the party back for other reasons than Jew-hatred then for their actions and inactions.
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Black people attacking whites in the US
by JoenB75 ini see a lot of shocking videos on social media about gangs of blacks attacking white people.
how big is the problem really and what is done about it?.
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I’m not saying this doesn’t happen the other way around, but we’re talking about disagreements about politics leading to violence, not criminal and gang activity leading to violence. There is a huge difference, nobody is defending the gangs as a good thing (except perhaps some at CNN trying to justify and decriminalize drugs).
BLM members shot and killed a Hispanic girl shooting at their group from a bridge because the Hispanic group said ALL lives matter, a creed 75% of the US agrees with.
BLM are trying to cancel Goya, a Hispanic staple and family owned company for speaking the truth.
BLM is not a ‘we like to get better circumstances for blacks’, they are a black supremacist group. Prove me wrong.
And to Joel’s experience: this has been happening in Europe since the late 1990s and it’s leading to majority votes now being for the Nazi parties with the other parties having to form coalitions to keep extreme right groups from gaining too much power, these parties didn’t even have enough votes to keep a seat in councils and parliaments, are now occupying dozens of stable seats across government and occasionally winning complete control in local city elections. -
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Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?
by minimus ina new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.
of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?
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@Daniel1555: As I’ve requested in prior posts, can you please post evidence for your factoids. Where are the 70,000 dead every day? Or even in hospitals if they’re just sick? You posted a single CNN post which was quickly fact checked as misleading at best.
Cases go up if you test, but we’re talking about sick on a ventilator or dead for it to be impactful. Just because you got the sniffles, doesn’t mean you’re going to die and without a vaccine, we expect people to get sick and build immunity.
Also, explain why suddenly we shot up, 4-6 weeks after the country re-opened and just 1-2 weeks after the protests started. Is it the protestors getting sick or the general population? If it’s the protestors (young people) we expect them to rise but the death rate to flatten or dip. If it’s the general population, we would see a surge in deaths amongst the elderly.
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Do you know of any Karens or Kens?
by minimus inlately in the news you see more karens and kens emerging.. ”i’m calling the police.
i see a black man looking at me!”.
”i want to speak to your manager right away!!
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There are very few ‘real’ Karens. Nowadays, anyone that speaks out against BLM or Antifa is considered a Karen, black people included (blacks that go against the communists are now called “Oreo’s” for being white inside but black outside).
Do note that only ~25% of whites and 30% of blacks agree with BLM statements, everyone else says All Lives Matter is less offensive. So this is a loud minority which is promulgated to promote Biden amongst the black community (BLM’s donation system is an arm of the DNC fundraising system ActBlue, which will funnel the funds to Biden’s next presidential campaign)
The only way to fight this is by voting for Trump, even if you don’t like him, do you really want the rest of the US becoming like Portland or Seattle or LA or NYC? -
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Black people attacking whites in the US
by JoenB75 ini see a lot of shocking videos on social media about gangs of blacks attacking white people.
how big is the problem really and what is done about it?.
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White people and Hispanics are being lynched, there is a ton of video of white people being attacked and killed. Groups of black people are shooting at white people and Hispanics from bridges, shooting in cars as they pass by (killing at least one toddler).
For some reason CNN and MSNBC hasn’t reported on anything of this yet, and Reddit and Twitter and Facebook are actively burying these stories. By chance you come by the stories, police officers are being attacked with hammers and shot at aren’t allowed to fight back. Portland is asking FEDERAL police, which Trump deployed to stop the riots, to retreat from the city to let violent rioters loot and let the city burn.
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Just wanting confirmation on an unofficial JW experience
by joe134cd injust wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this unofficial jw experience that my father received by email.
i’ve told him that it against wt rules to forward unofficial accounts.
but of course he just puts that down to apostate driven lies.
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Zoom is a Chinese internet company which means they are partially if not wholly owned by the CCP. If they forwarded a ‘fine witness’, regardless of whether they agreed with it, their heads would roll faster than you can say Jehovah’s Witness.